I think that’s the question a lot of people are asking. I have a friend. His name is Elijah Roberson, he wrote about this concept of ally fatigue, which unfortunately is already, you know, apparently an issue.

And basically, the article was about how certain pockets of our collection of allies getting tired of, thinking about this all the time. It's not a fun thing to think about, social injustice. So in order for us to keep the momentum going. I was saying that the onus is on us, those who are actually sort of suffering to to lean on the privilege of the folks who are, who consider themselves our allies. So you know when our allies ask us what they can do, which is a question I'm sure both of you have received repeatedly.

I've received it repeatedly. And my answer is: you have access to and connections with people who I don't, who may be holding on to like racist ideas or some anti-human ideals. Educate them, talk to them, work on them, because I think whenever things are out of balance what we're seeing now is that we have sort of a fringe idea of a fringe movement that's moved to the center.

André Lovelle